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Sex, Porn, Men and General Authorities 

As a woman raised in the LDS church, I was taught that pornography was one of the very worst evils of our modern times. I’ve been thinking about this for years though, and despite the many problematic elements of pornography use, I believe we’ve been dealing with this topic all wrong. The church’s teachings on pornography are at best misguided and unhelpful, and at worst a purposeful misdirection to keep members from noticing far more problematic behavior at the highest levels of male leadership. 

I know this topic is difficult and controversial, and that a lot of women reading this will have been harmed by the pornography use of men in their lives. I see the frequent discussions online in LDS women’s forums about the betrayal wives feel when they discover their husband’s hidden behavior, and I know how painful it is for the men who desperately want to stop viewing pornography but can’t. I do not want to invalidate any of those feelings or experiences. They are very real.

I also know that many women regularly view pornography themselves, but in this specific post I want to talk about men’s use of pornography from a woman’s perspective. I’m posting anonymously because I talk openly about my family members. This is just my opinion, from my own life perspective. It’s okay if you disagree with me.

PART ONE: MY DAD AND PORNOGRAPHY

When I got married in the temple over twenty years ago, my dad didn’t come. He wanted to. He was an active and devoted member of the church. He had a stake calling working closely with the stake presidency, paid a faithful tithing, sang in the ward and stake choirs, literally never missed his home teaching, showed up early and stayed late to help run ward events, held family scripture study, and never missed a chance to share his testimony and publicly declare his belief and dedication to the church he’d converted to in his thirties. My dad (still to this day, now almost eighty) has been the one of most faithful and dedicated members of the church you can find anywhere.

Why didn’t he come to my temple wedding, though? It was because he was caught viewing pornography a few months before my sealing date and declared unworthy to see me get married.

At the time I didn’t really question it. He was the sinner, after all, and I learned this wasn’t the first time he’d been caught with porn. My sister asked me, “Do you even feel comfortable letting Dad around our future kids anymore?” I wasn’t sure what I thought, but his banishment from the temple that day cast a dark cloud over the entire experience, and I still struggle to have happy memories of my wedding day all these years later. 

My mom is now currently dying. She’s been in hospice care for a very long time and has surpassed her life expectancy many times over. She’s in poor health and can be difficult to be around, which isn’t that unusual for someone at the end of their life with dementia. My dad has spent every waking moment caring for her under incredible stress for well over a year now. He hasn’t complained, and hasn’t shown a single sign of stopping no matter how exhausted he is. Any of us should hope and pray for someone as good of a human as my dad to be their companion in life – even if his consistent weakness was viewing pornography. 

I visited my parents recently and by complete coincidence our old stake president and his wife came to visit them at the same time. I felt rising emotions in my chest when it occurred to me that the man coming (who I hadn’t seen since I was a teenager in his ward) might be the same man who wouldn’t allow me to invite my dad to my own wedding after he told him he’d been viewing pornography. As we made casual small talk at the beginning of their visit, I tried to keep my voice calm and said, “I forgot…what years were you the stake president again?” I felt a flood of relief when he told me the years he served and that he was released two years before my wedding. It hadn’t been this stake president, it was the next one. If it had been the other man in front of me, I think I would’ve had an unplanned emotional meltdown with absolutely no idea of how to explain it to the four elderly people I was visiting with.

Luckily for all of us, I didn’t have to confront that particular trauma in person that day – but I did realize how angry I am at the stake president who made that decision. There is such a variety of responses from church leaders over porn use, including some leaders who do nothing at all when men confess to them. Why was there no ability to extend grace to my broken and repentant dad for one single day, or to consider my feelings? Most girls are walked down the aisle by their fathers when they get married, and the only reason they wouldn’t be is because their dad is dead (or not in their life). I didn’t have that issue. My dad was alive and very present, but another man I barely knew decided I couldn’t have him at my wedding because of porn. My mom and dad are both converts, so I already had almost no family there and he took away one of my parents. Sometimes as a woman I’ve felt completely overlooked by men in authority dealing with other men, and this is probably the biggest example of that. Men deal with other men over porn use, and too often the women in their lives tend to be forgotten in the background.

Like I said at the beginning of this post, I was taught my entire life that pornography was evil, and that viewing it would lead men to become sexual deviants and occasionally, you know, serial killers. I can’t believe that anymore, considering two things:

  1. Research shows that the vast majority of men (and plenty of women) view pornography regularly, and our society hasn’t broken down into mass murder and rape in the streets. It may not always be the greatest part of human nature, but it’s a pretty normal part of human nature regardless.
  2. My dad struggled with pornography use his entire life, and at the end of his life it turns out he’s one of the greatest men I’ve ever known.
     

Today I’m angry and sad that the church made my dad feel like a bad person for wanting to look at naked women and sex. (I’m actually glad he liked that stuff, because if he didn’t – I wouldn’t exist!) I’m angry that the church gave my mom (who was a difficult person to be married to due to multiple lifelong undiagnosed mental illnesses) a reason to treat my dad poorly and feel so superior to him. My mom was often mean and her moods were unpredictable, while my dad was unfailingly kind – yet his normal draw to view sexual images made him feel inferior his entire life, and my mom kept a temple recommend while his worthiness came and went. Despite everything, my dad never cheated on my mom. He never visited a prostitute. He never walked out on our family to find an easier companion. Now he’s helping change my mom’s diapers, patiently feeding her with a spoon as she sits in a wheelchair, and has dedicated his entire life to her care despite being healthy enough himself to do more fulfilling activities with his remaining years. Realizing that my dad spent his life believing he was broken because of pornography breaks my heart – and frustrates me at the institution of the church for its unending obsession with men and pornography.

PART TWO: NONE OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PORN MAKES SENSE TO ME:

So much of what we teach about the law of chastity (specifically regarding viewing erotic materials) doesn’t make any sense to me. For example:

1. Sex is always taught as the “sin next to murder”. So technically, we’re saying that murder is worse than premarital sex, right? Despite this, I have been told so many times that a movie or show is okay to watch specifically because its rating is for violence, not sex.

If murder is a worse sin than sex, shouldn’t it be better for me to watch a scene of consensual love making than a non-consensual stabbing? Shouldn’t I be able to say, “I’m watching an NC17-rated movie, but don’t worry…it’s only because of some very explicit sex scenes. There’s no murder!”?

Saturday night I went to see the newly released Hunger Games prequel movie in a very packed theater in Utah county, filled with LDS people eager to pay money to watch three hours of violence and murder. I looked at the crowd and wondered how many of them would be in Sacrament Meeting the next morning, totally fine with the people they’d watched get stabbed with a pitchfork the night before.

2. It hasn’t escaped my notice that a lot of LDS women love shows like Bridgerton and Outlander, both of which contain a lot of love scenes. The explanation I’ve heard for why these shows are okay to watch is because they’re showing committed, married sex. “Finally, Hollywood is portraying married sex as a good thing!”, I’ve heard women say.

This breaks down for me immediately because these are not shows teaching morality and LDS chastity standards by any stretch of the imagination. In reality I think these women are saying, “Finally, Hollywood is portraying sex in a way that I don’t feel guilty about watching!”

And the “it’s married sex so it’s fine” thing everyone does has a huge plot hole for me. The people in these hot sex scenes are actors – they aren’t actually married to each other. Using that logic, if a married couple took videos of themselves having sex and uploaded them to a porn site – why would that not be okay to watch, then too? I mean, it’s married sex!

3. We talk about pornography as if it is one single entity, but there are so, so many different types of pornography out there. (Even in Utah, where we declared it a public health crisis, no one has ever defined what pornography actually is. We are just weirdly legislating around a totally undefined term. Is porn a swimsuit issue of a magazine? Is it naked sex? Is it partially clothed sex? Is it a Game of Thrones scene? Is it a Bridgerton scene? Is it the hot lumberjack guy on TikTok who splits logs in a tight shirt with 10 million followers?)

It’s as vague as someone with a severe food allergy asking, “What will we be eating for dinner?”, and their host just answering, “food”. There are a lot of different types of food, some of which would be very damaging to the person, but also plenty that aren’t a big deal. You have to be more specific!

Like food, there’s a very wide range of pornography and why a man might look it up. A sexually inexperienced newly married man might be looking online for help giving his even less experienced new wife her first orgasm. I have such a hard time seeing that as anything but a totally noble pursuit. On the other hand, a fifty year old pedophile might look up child pornography to view a four year old child being raped. Those two actions by two different men are motivated by wildly different intentions, but in general conference they are both simply called “pornography”.

I had a BYU professor who’d once completed a graduate level research project on pornography at a different university. He told us that for most men, watching people have sex simply made them want to have sex too. No Ted Bundy style killing sprees, and no soul stealing deals with Satan – they just wanted to have sex. Few women I know would be angry with men in their lives for simply wanting to have sex, but when the word “pornography” is used over the pulpit to describe both straightforward depictions of sex as well as illegal, sexually abusive porn – how are deliberately uninformed women supposed to do anything but jump to the very worst conclusion? (And how are teenage boys supposed to understand that looking up pictures of boobs is very different from what a rapist going to prison has done because we call all of it “the sin next to murder”? We tell stories about serial killers blaming their crimes on pornography, while not honestly pointing out to kids that billions of other people have also consumed pornographic materials and literally never killed a single person because of them.)

Just like my sister and I wondered at first if my dad should ever be alone with our future children, I’ve heard many women panic about child molestation when they discover their husband’s pornography use. It is highly unlikely that an otherwise decent man who likes watching pretty people have sex is also a pedophile, but when women are given the implied message that those things are somehow connected to each other, marriages and family relationships face completely unnecessary challenges. 

4. If the church really does hate pornography so very much, why do they take the scientifically least effective route possible to limit and end its use? I know a mental health professional who specializes in addiction, and since learning that about him I’ve occasionally picked his brain for advice on overcoming my own compulsive behaviors (for example, what should I do when I find myself eating cookies in the pantry at 10 pm when I’m not hungry and really, really don’t want to be doing it?). 

He’s given me a three part solution: 1. Avoid fear. 2. Avoid shame. 3. “What you resist, persists.” He’s told me to accept my normal human weaknesses with compassion, and avoid aiming for perfection through hypervigilance. I want to break his professional advice down for how we treat unwanted pornography use in the church.

Fear: We make men terrified of porn from childhood on with stories of Ted Bundy. We make them terrified that no woman will marry them if they admit they’ve looked at it, and that their spouse will leave them if they’re caught. 

Shame: We make men feel intense shame for viewing pornography, leading to secrecy and more shame. 

Resisting: Instead of just letting men move on and try to do better the next time, we take porn use (even just once) and turn it into a huge issue – releasing men from callings, taking away their temple recommends, making them publicly not take the sacrament, and sending them to church sponsored Addiction Recovery Programs. This white knuckle approach that makes it central to everything in their life does the exact opposite of everything my addiction specialist friend suggested to me. 

I’ve read many online discussions about pornography use in the church, and to summarize them all, I’d say this: there are so, so many men in the LDS church viewing pornography in secret. I think it’s much more likely that a man is than isn’t. 

In an environment where so many men are exhibiting similar behavior, is it really fair to place the blame on the individuals rather than critically examining the system that so many of them are reacting nearly identically to? We were all raised in a culture that valued total purity before marriage, yet offered almost no sexual education before or after marriage, and provides no professional premarital or marital counseling. We rarely talk about sex, and right up to your wedding night your sexuality is treated as a terrible sin. Curiosity combined with a genuine need to learn about something that will be a huge part of most people’s adult lives leads members of the church to the internet to explore. It’s very easy to see how anyone would be repeatedly pulled back to what they’re viewing there. Internet pornography is often the only available outlet to explore this important part of our lives that’s a taboo discussion everywhere else.

Once stuck compulsively in this behavior we tell men to just try harder to be righteous, but make no attempt to address the root causes of their behavior (loneliness, stress, anxiety, boredom, depression, exhaustion) or to provide a replacement activity to self soothe (exercise, music, companionship, Netflix, sports).

Instead, attempts to change frequently involve punishment (like my dad missing my wedding), shame, repentance, more shame, guilt, secrecy, fear, paranoia, hopelessness, loneliness, self hatred, and more shame. It’s not surprising at all that men turn to pornography even more the harder they try to stop, as the way they are treated (like alcoholics or drug addicts in the church’s pornography addiction programs) is the worst possible way to treat an unwanted behavior. It turns normal human weaknesses into compulsive addictions. 

Unlike the treatment of a drug addict (where there is no healthy level of daily interaction with say, cocaine or heroin), there has to be daily interaction with your sexuality. Similar to compulsive eating, you need to find healthier ways to eat and manage your appetite, not just avoid food for the rest of your life. The church doesn’t allow for that flexibility when it comes to sex, which leads to failure after failure in curing men’s unwanted behavior. 

5. Literally everywhere else in society, the people who are most critical of something are usually the same ones who consume it regularly. For example, film critics, art critics, and television critics all live and breathe the medium they are critiquing. The biggest critics of pornography in the church however, are the ones who claim they’ve never watched it. Elderly men who aged out of their testosterone and sex drive many years before pornography became easily accessible on the internet are the ones passing out the fear and shame to the younger ones. The church treats pornography as the biggest issue facing men today, yet will only let men who have never seen it make the rules and write the general conference talks about it. This reminds me of when heterosexual people give advice on how to be gay in the church, or men give conference talks on how to be better women and mothers. 

For example, the church teaches that “Much of pornography shows violence, domination, and aggression toward others.” On the other hand, Psychology Today talks about 2% of porn videos depicting violence against women, making it less violent than many TV shows and movies.

For the record, I want zero percent of the media we consume to include violence against women – but this demonstrates to me that the person writing for the church manuals might not be very personally experienced in the world of pornography.

6. As a young woman, I wasn’t allowed to wear sleeveless dresses to church dances because it would be immodest. When I was a Mia Maid, two priests came into my young women’s class and one told us about going to a dance with a girl who showed up in a strapless dress and how he had to keep offering her his jacket and hoping she’d cover up with it.  As a nursing mom I had to go to the mother’s room to feed my babies, lest I turn the men and boys in my ward into porn addicts. Elder Dallin H. Oaks told me that I’d “become pornography” for men if I dressed immodestly, and Elder Tad Callister warned me that I should dress modestly to “contribute to the moral purity of men”. There is so much concern about women and girls covering our entire bodies to avoid tempting men.

But then we all go to the temple for the first time and there’s a completely naked lady in the movie and everybody’s like, sure that’s fine.

If the teenage boys in my ward were supposedly struggling to avoid porn addictions because they’d seen a mom with a nursing cover over their baby but still *knew* there were boobs underneath it, how is a totally naked, beautiful Eve projected on a large movie screen not going to cause porn addictions for all the new missionaries? Explain this to me.

PART THREE: WHY I’M MAD AT CHURCH LEADERS FOR MAKING PORN SUCH A BIG DEAL

Like all of us, church leaders make mistakes – including how they’ve dealt with the relatively new issue of modern internet pornography use. I would be okay with those mistakes if they would simply acknowledge what’s happened and apologize. 

Women, unfortunately, are systematically excluded from all decision-making power and positions of authority in the church. (This included the decision to keep my dad out of the temple on my wedding day.) We wait for men to decide that change is needed, so all I can do is watch helplessly as the next generation of teenagers grows up with the same issues I struggled with. Change is painfully slow, and waiting for it is excruciating when you have no ability to contribute to it. 

I feel like top church leaders could have a much bigger moral impact on the world by fixing their own issues than lecturing other men about looking at illicit images online (including hoarding wealth in a suffering world, harm to LGBTQ youth up to the point of suicides, refusing to acknowledge past mistakes of leaders for fear it will open them up to modern day criticism, and breaking and bending federal and state laws for their own benefit).

I want a better church for my friends, family, neighbors and children. I want a church healthy enough that men like my dad aren’t compulsively viewing pornography as an escape. I want a world where women’s ideas and leadership are treated equally to men’s, and I want our leaders to be and do much better with our money and their words. Within our church is child sex abuse, rape, assault, homophobia, racism, and a total lack of representation for women in upper church leadership. But instead of addressing these issues they have the power to fix, our leaders stand at the pulpit and tell us the most pressing issue of the day is that all the younger men in Elder’s Quorum keep looking at boobs on their laptops.

Are we supposed to be so distracted by that sin that we don’t notice any of the problems the leaders need to work on? Many men (like my dad) throughout the church show real humility and a desire to repent and make use of the atonement when it comes to their pornography use. I wish the men at the top would show the same willingness to fix their own shortcomings, and that the rest of us could have more compassion and less judgement for the humanity of everyone in the church dealing with unwanted pornography use.

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23 Responses

  1. Whew, quite a long read but what you write deserves an in-depth discussion in the Church. Especially that because it is so shaming, it drives the person to hide their viewing, which leads to a further descent sometimes. The more shamed and unworthy we feel, the more we are inclined to double down and go deeper and deeper. Your therapist makes a very good point—what we resist, persists. And that would be a good topic for a “real” Relief Society meeting too.

  2. okay, wait…I have chosen not to have a temple recommend since November 2015, so I haven’t seen the new videos. Does it really show Eve’s body fully naked? The videos I saw only showed her bare shoulders and head.

    1. It’s never been anything other than shoulders and above – just implied nudity. But since girls would be kicked out of a church dance for even half of the skin showing on the actress that plays Eve, it seems a little absurd to never address what bad thoughts the temple is giving men. Even 12 year old girls at Girl’s Camp are make to wear t-shirts over their swimsuits because there are Priesthood leaders there.

  3. To be honest, when I initially read this was going to be a woman’s perspective on the issue of men and pornography in the church, I was ready to grit my teeth and read through what I expected to be an excoriation of men like me, who struggled with it from 13 years old.

    Instead, you wrote something with such compassion and understanding that you almost made me tear up. You nailed it.

  4. Porn is an evil industry, all those clicks pay for sex abuse, most porn actresses were sexual y abused as children. No matter if everyone does it, its run by evil people and hurts a lor of people, even Kanye figured it out

    1. The problematic porn industry wasn’t the point of this post. I wish the sermons in general conference warning against porn was out of concern for the trafficked and abused women who frequently find themselves acting in those pornographic films. Unfortunately, leadership is shaming men just for being interested in sex.

  5. Society is kinda falling apart though so I’m not sure you’ve got a point there..you do have a point that certain kinds of porn are widely accepted in our culture but two wrongs don’t make a right.

  6. Thank you for writing this. So many marriages and families have been senselessly destroyed, not because of pornography, but because of the fear of pornography and the failure to understand it as a normal thing for humans to desire. I would go even a step further and say that no person who watches porn is broken because they watch porn, and they have nothing to repent of. I appreciate you pointing out how little actual violence there is in porn. There are many studies claiming that 80%, 90% or whatever of porn content contains violence. But when you look at the methodology, they’re labeling a wide range of perfectly consensual, kinky behaviors as “violent.” There needs to be more discussion of porn in the Church, both for the sake of men that get labeled as deviant for watching it and for the women who are taught to fear when the men in their lives watch it.

  7. This essay needs to be a series of lessons welcomed and taught in the Church today. It’s a masterclass in how we can exploit one small, universal human weakness to lord over our fellow man and subject him to open shame. The all-inclusive topic of pornography is the straining at the gnat and beam in the eye the scriptures warn us about.

  8. I don’t think watching porn is a “sin”. Your points are excellent. The damage the rhetoric from the church has produced between spouses as well as parents/children is far worse than watching actual porn (IMO). I also just can’t with the victim blaming the church engages in regarding women. Oh, your shoulders are showing! You’re making males lose control! How about the church teaches males how to have self control, how to be responsible for themselves, or even removing the stigma from sex so seeing a bare shoulder isn’t perceived as a sexual stimulant. I find it ironic that the church has evolved from the early days of horn-dog men with many, many wives to complete sexual shaming today. Many women find the transition difficult from the teaching that sex is the second greatest sin next to murder (when single) to flipping the switch once a piece of paper is signed. The mental damage is already done. It’s not surprising that there are intimacy issues within church marriages. That said, Chino Blanco makes an important point – the porn industry generally is not a healthy one to be involved in and involves a lot of abuse. Not supporting it for those reasons is valid and moral. But, IMO, if you choose to view porn, for whatever reason, it’s your business and yours alone. The church has no business attempting to police that. I hate that your father was excluded from attending your wedding. I hate that the temple, the supposed pinnacle of the church that supposedly champions the concept of families, is used to punish, separate, and control families.

    1. I said this in a comment above as well, but the fact that church leaders aren’t upset about the immoral and abusive practices in the porn industry itself – but rather just the fact that men like thinking about sex – is what bothers me about all the non-stop talk about pornography in church settings.

      Honestly, a lot of very nice LDS men (many of whom are fathers) would probably significantly cut back their porn usage if Elder Oaks highlighted stories of some young women going into the porn industry because of abuse or coercion, or if they played interviews of retired porn stars suffering with the medical aftermath (like cancer of the uterus) of having had so much sex with so many different men for so many years. The girls in those videos aren’t objects, they’re human beings – and acknowledging them as such makes it much harder to mindlessly watch. Those are much more motivating reasons to turn off a porn site than just being ashamed for looking at it.

      Unfortunately, I have never heard porn addressed this way in a church setting ever. It’s always just about how terrible the men are for watching it and how they’re harming themselves spiritually.

  9. I had to laugh at the example of boys knowing there were boobs under the breast-feeding mom’s coverup. Were they not aware that those boobs are also under women’s and girls’ blouses? And that actually, we’re all naked under our clothes?🤣

  10. Thanks for this essay.

    Earlier this year I happened to spend a week at the beach on the French Riviera, enjoying the lovely weather and turquoise water of the Mediterranean. On one of the days my husband and I took our kit off and swam and sunbathed at a nude beach (when in Rome, etc.). I was probably the only American there that day. The rest were French and Dutch with a few Germans sprinkled in.

    The mindset at the beach was so different from what I had grown up with in my Mormon childhood and arguably a hundred times healthier. In particular, there was complete body acceptance and an easygoing vibe of freedom and an appreciation for people and nature. These were humans who had grown up without American hangups about bodies.

    The church of my youth has weaponized American body shame as a means of exerting undue influence over its congregants. That’s the real shame here.

  11. I agree with a lot of what you said except I don’t think it’s fair to make out 12-step programs as only for people with substance abuse problems (as if that’s the WORST compulsive behavior one can have). Yes it’s true that they don’t work for everyone but TBH I think everyone would benefit from learning and implementing the 12 steps. ARP is all about letting go of the shame by disovering the root cause (along with therapy) and being honest with yourself and anyone you may have harmed.

    1. But the church’s 12 step addiction has changed from the old AA 12 steps. I have talked to many people who say that church run addiction programs are very shaming, and they make light of the idea that you have to make restitution to all you have harmed and the emphasis really is turned to making things right with God/church.

  12. Wow, what a great post! You’ve made a ton of excellent points.

    This is a little bit of a tangent, but your point about GAs homogenizing porn when they condemn it all made me think of how they also homogenize sex outside of marriage. When they just wave their hands and say it’s all bad, they don’t have any room left to point out that actually, rape is horrible evil and consensual sex is maybe only mildly wrong.

    1. Then to compound that lack of differentiation between harm caused, they do not really teach or know about consent, and end up blaming women for being raped.

  13. Ziff – it’s oversimplified on the other side of matrimony as well to say sex within a heterosexual temple marriage is always good, too. This completely ignores the fact that there are husbands who rape their wives every day. Lots of very immoral things happen in married, missionary style sex!

  14. Minimizing sexual sin by comparing it to murder is ridiculous. The article failed to acknowledge that people who watch porn also engage in the M word. M…ing is immoral. Sex education is the responsibility of parents. Our leaders were truly inspired when they warn about the dangers of watching porn. Maybe people actually feel bad watching it because that is the spirit is telling you it is wrong.

  15. Hi, and thanks for commenting and being willing to read through this very long post!

    I assume you are talking about masturbation (not murder), as the m-word. I would actually disagree with you that masturbation is immoral, because children (beginning as infants in the womb) engage in it, and it isn’t necessarily tied to anything sexual at all. It’s a natural way for the body to reduce stress and release mood enhancing hormones, and it would be very hard to find a pediatrician or child psychologist who didn’t agree that it’s a totally normal part of human development. That said, if you choose for yourself to not engage in masturbation and that fits well with your own personal values, I support that.

    However, if sex education is the responsibility of LDS parents, I think that anyone who has LDS parents (or is an LDS parent) can confirm that we are all failing at that quite spectacularly. We’ve made sexuality so forbidden and sinful that other than the very most basic mechanics, most young people grow up with almost no practical skills and not surprisingly turn to the source of all knowledge on everything – the internet. This isn’t just within the church, it’s a problem everywhere in our culture. For something that is going to be a regular part of so many people’s entire adult lives, we aren’t helping anyone by refusing to talk about it.

    Again, I know you disagreed, but thanks for reading and commenting anyway.

  16. Your story about your Dad missing your wedding breaks my heart. And I agree with you that the church’s treatment of pornography has mostly done harm and just fed into cycles of use. I’m aware that lots of men in out of the church that I like and respect have used porn, whether it has been a compulsive unwanted behavior, or something occasional. But there is a lot about porn and how it works psychological and how it damages relationships that you don’t acknowledge here and that makes me really uncomfortable. You leave me with the impression you see it as something innocent and healthy even for grown men with partners they love. I grew up with a Dad who had unwanted porn use throughout my entire growing up years. This was just one symptoms of really difficult emotional struggles he had with shame, futility, and anger. For him, as it does for many men, porn use bred misogyny in his heart. He was physically and verbally abusive to our family. He tore down my mom regularly. He shamed us kids. Being innocently sexually curious as a younger person is very different than a compulsive problem that you don’t want and that feeds into cycles of domestic abuse, which is the reality for a lot of families in the church with a Dad who struggles to stop using porn. Frankly, I think your dad being such a benevolent family member might be the exception, not the rule here. I’m uncomfortable with how who criticize your mom’s role in the relationship. Porn use causes betrayal trauma, which can devastate women’s mental health and place big schisms in a relationship. There is nothing inherently natural or healthy or normal about our society’s videos of strangers having sex. Nobody really needs this. And unwanted, compulsive behavior is pathological, even if we should have a lot of empathy on it. Makes me think of the new book ” The Myth of Normal” which is about how our society is so pathological that things get turned upside down and being mentally and physically unhealthy and unbalanced becomes the new normal. Unwanted sexual behaviors are caused by wounds in early relationships and feelings of anger, futility, arousal and shame, you can learn about this in the book “Unwanted: How Sexual Brokenness Reveals Our Way to Healing.” The church has the wrong approach, but we all need to get more saavy about understanding the psychology behind compulsive porn use and sex addiction.

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For those following the Jodie Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke crimes, check out blogger Abby Maxwell Hansen as a guest on Therapy Today. She discusses her own views on how Mormonism intersected with Ruby's extreme parenting and Jodi's unethical therapeutic practices to create a perfect storm for abuse - and how it has implications for all members of our religious community, not just the Franke children. What are your thoughts? Is there a connection between certain church teachings and the terrible crimes these women committed?

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